Life, or something like it

As I said in an earlier post, I tend to see things in probabilities - potential outcomes for the future based on various measures of likelihood. There are a number of side-effects of this that are sometimes beneficial and sometimes detrimental.

One, however, tends to be harder for most people to grasp: I don't believe in anything.

I mean that pretty literally, and not just in relation to faiths. I don't believe in anything, including the laws of physics or my own existence. And this isn't just semantics of "belief" versus "knowledge": I don't, for example, think that the law of gravity is true in any real sense.

And yet, I don't except to fly out of my chair any time soon. How to reconcile that? Fairly easily, actually, if you remember that I started this talking about probability.

In the absence of absolute fact, the only criteria we have for judgment is a preponderance of evidence. This is, in itself, a judgment based on probability: the evidence we have points to xx as being more likely to be true than yy. This doesn't mean that xx is true, just that it's more likely to be true, or more true if we allow for approximations.

As I said, the law of gravity isn't true. We can pretty much guarantee that - after all, Archimedes was "proven wrong" by Newton, Newton by Einstein, Einstein by quantum theory... It'd be irresponsible - and pretty naive - to assume that this time we've got it right. We likely don't. However, the current description of gravity fits observation to a pretty high degree, so even while it's not true, it's useful. This is heuristic: the map is not the territory. It's functional and practical, just not factual. As a more primitive example, the notion that the sun rises in the east is also heuristic.

In life, I'm willing to accept a large number of things as being potentially true. It's a kind of reserved judgment ackowledging that we really don't know that we know anything about anything: we must assume we just have approximations to various degrees. So, I'm willing to accept something as potentially true until further data presents itself. Often I can work with two completely contradictary models at the same time because both are accepted in potentia and neither has proven unreliable.

To a lot of people - especially to friends I have who are determinists - this kind of "wishy washy" approach ranges from unnerving to downright threatening. "You can't make decisions if you don't know anything," I've been told on numerous occasions, a statement which is, of course, false as evidentiated by pretty much everything.

This kind of thinking goes all they way down to my own existence: I have no evidence to support my own existence. I can come up with multiple potential situations where I could perceive that I'm having experiences without actually having them - "Matrix"-type simulations, brain hallucinations, even being a character in someone else's dream. I can't rule any of these out objectively, but my behavior isn't terribly affected by the lack of knowledge: whether I'm really living or just hallucinating life, I have to act as if it's real simply because the experience includes triggers that at least simulate biological imperatives (like hunger and exhaustion).

The whole approach is a kind of "willing suspension of disbelief", similar to what we do when we watch movies. Only, for me, it's my entire life. Perhaps that's why I mostly dream in movies.

I also tend to annoy friends by answering "probably" instead of "yes" most times. It's not a conscious thing, it's simply the truth - or as close to it as I know.

12 comments:

TwoLives said...

I wonder how relevant this side-effect is to your every day life. Is it an undercurrent that permeates most of your thoughts, decisions and interactions? Or, is it a quiet hum, a background noise, that your brain mostly ignores?

It seems to me that when you don't believe in anything, you thereby do not believe in disbelief. Nor do you believe in absolute fact nor do you believe in truth. A fundamental disbelief in everything results in a complete deconstruction of, well, everything. It is a black hole which devours all.

Belief is a continuum. At one end, there is the belief in nothing, including the concepts of belief and disbelief, and the concept of a concept. At the other end, is the belief in everything; there is no falseness, misunderstanding, wrong answer, etc. To literally 'live' at either end of the continuum would surely lead any human to madness; the inherent contradictions cannot be reconciled.

To avoid insanity, each of us must selectively choose what to believe or not to believe. "Belief" and "choice" therefore form the foundation for our individual concepts of reality.

By choosing what to believe, we make our own reality. For example, the man who chooses to believe that every thought he has is true is called self-delusional. And, the man who chooses to believe that nothing is true is called, among other things, a lost soul.

You appear to be saying that you have chosen to believe that life - your perception of reality - is determined by probabilities.

As difficult as it might be (impossible?) I suggest that you consider an alternative perception of reality, one that is based on choice.

Because the choice to believe is so fundamental - it is the foundation of our individual reality - wouldn't it be logical to expect choice to play the dominant role in our individual realities? And if choice is dominant, where does that leave probability?

Perhaps the best way to reconcile the two ideas is to choose to believe that the probability of choice being the dominant factor in our individual reality is extremely high, therefore we must regard our ability to make decisions as more fundamental than any other factor, including randomness.

In my reality, probabilities are important but I believe that I can use them to make the best choices.

In your reality, you believe in nothing and have thereby negated your personal power of choice, leaving you to the mercy of probabilities.

Right?

A Wandering Pom said...

Hi there, Austin

This is wonderful: I could have written this post myself - if only someone had asked me the right question(s) to get me to articulate my view of the world.

I suspect that you accept Descartes' argument, "Cogito ergo sum", much as I do: a conscious being, especially one contemplating its own existence, must surely conclude that that being exists, at least at that moment. Whether the evidence of the senses is to be believed for the existence of any sort of external reality is another matter entirely - and similarly the evidence of the memory for any sort of temporal continuity.

Like you, if I'm thinking at all seriously about what I'm saying, I will tend to qualify any assertion with some indication of its provenance or probability. I'm reminded occasionally of the Fair Witness early in Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land.

Take care

Mark

Austin said...

I think you extrapolated well beyond the givens again.

"It seems to me that when you don't believe in anything, you thereby do not believe in disbelief."

Logically false (and slightly irrelevant). You can prove something isn't true quite easily, whether or not you can prove what *is* true. Something that contradicts observable phenomena is false, regardless of status of "belief" (which is where the irrelevance comes from). As far as the tautology of believing in belief, well that's more a semantic argument, but I suppose if pressed I'd have to say that there's a high probability that belief (and therefore disbelief) exists.

"Nor do you believe in absolute fact nor do you believe in truth."

Not necessarily. There can be a truth out there, but it's possible that we aren't equipped to understand it. The most probable outcome, actually, is that there *is* some kind of fundamental reality, but that it is likely beyond our ability to comprehend it. The point is that I don't assume such truth exists; it's highly likely, but it's not required.

"A fundamental disbelief in everything results in a complete deconstruction of, well, everything. It is a black hole which devours all."

You're confusing a lack of belief with disbelief. I don't deny the possibility of existence; I simply deny the assuredness of such. You also seem to think that any ambiguity in the factors of the decision leads to an inability (or lack of desire) to decide. A multitude of potential results doesn't preclude attempting to achieve a specific one.

And again, you seem to turn this into "Austin avoids taking action/control in his life", which is where you went in the last one. There's no basis for that in anything I've said.

I never said that my life is controlled by probabilities - I said that I see things in probabilities rather than absolutes. Choice is still involved - there are still decisions to make based on the possible outcomes of the future. In fact, *my* version has far more choice that people who simply believe in unchanging facts: I have a chance, a choice, to affect what happens rather than having it all be dictated by determinism. In my perspective (and as proven by my history), every probability curve has a far end, an extreme, and it's always possible for that extreme to happen.

The only difference is that I actively seek out and try to anticipate (or in some cases precipitate) those possibilities, rather than being blindsided when the one in a thousand chance happens (or doesn't happen). It's the antithesis of abdicating control.

In fact, by acknowledging that future developments only exist as possible outcomes that can be affected by present situation, I take on myself the full onus of those outcomes (if not by cause, by interpretation). This isn't to say I have absolute control over my life - I don't; no one does. But it does mean that I become the most influential person in determining the course of my future.

It's interesting that you took it in this direction, because the two groups who abandon free will the most are determinists (mechanical causal universe) and the devout ("God's plan"), both of which can be described as absolute believers (either in unmutable, nonprobabilistic reality or in whichever faith).

So, overall, no, I'd say you're wrong.

Austin said...

Mark,

I don't necessarily accept "cogito ergo sum", because I don't necessarily have any objective evidence that I'm actually "thinking". It's more a practical approach: I have to behave as though this is real because it seems to feel real; otherwise, there's no motive for doing anything (and that would bore me). I don't conclude I exist, but my lack of existence (or the possible alternatives) wouldn't fundamentally change the decisions made, simply because inherent in what I observe as my existence is the notion to accept it.

Put it a different way: a robot perfectly programmed to behave like a real human wouldn't behave any differently than a real human; its own knowledge of whether it is human or not wouldn't affect the outcome. Whether or not I exist as a real human, or even as a phantom in someone's dream, the only information to which I can react implies my existence. Ergo, the logical choice is to act as if I exist, even if I'm not sure.

It's like Robert Anton Wilson once wrote: "You have to believe in free will; you have no choice in the matter."

There is, quite seriously, a part of me that *always* wonders whether I'm really a 13-year-old lying in bed in a motel room dying by inches, and that this life has all been a hallucination in those last few hours. There's no objective way for me to know, but not knowing shouldn't change my behavior.

A Wandering Pom said...

Hi there, Austin

Re "Cogito ergo sum": I agree that an individual cannot necessarily have objective evidence that he/she/it is thinking. But, as I see it, I have subjective evidence: I am aware, right now, of directing the stream of narrative to try to express as clearly as possible the ideas that I am considering. In my view, that subjective evidence is sufficient for my belief that I exist, and I think this is what Descartes is getting at: if I can say, "I am aware that I am thinking", then "I", the thing that is thinking about itself thinking, exists. But I know that your view of consciousness differs somewhat from mine, so it may be that this argument breaks down for you. For me, at least, "cogito ergo sum" is the only solid place to stand in a universe otherwise fluid and unreliable.

As for the rest of your comment: I agree completely. I have no way of proving that I am not a brain in a jar, or software on a computer, for example, with all my sensory input simulated. But, like you, I continue to behave as if what I experience is objectively "real", because it seems by far the most probable situation. And if I am really a dying 13-year-old hallucinating, then I have to say that it's a pretty good hallucination, overall - it certainly contains interesting people with whom I can discuss the nature of reality, for example. Unlike you, most of the time I'm not wondering about this sort of thing, but every once in a while I have a moment of what one might call existential or solipsistic doubt, and find myself meandering through chains of thought somewhat like those above.

Take care

Mark

TwoLives said...

"In fact, by acknowledging that future developments only exist as possible outcomes that can be affected by present situation, I take on myself the full onus of those outcomes (if not by cause, by interpretation). This isn't to say I have absolute control over my life - I don't; no one does. But it does mean that I become the most influential person in determining the course of my future."

Clearly, I have had doubts about how influential you see yourself to be. I am happy to be so clearly refuted, at least in writing.

Austin said...

Mark,

I think the point where the argument "breaks down" is the assumption that you're thinking; again, it's an assumption that you have to make, but it's still an unsupported assumption. But discussions about "thinking you're thinking" break down semantically; I assume you probably know what I mean. Language isn't always sufficient.

I think (ha!) the only reason why I'm more constantly aware of the possibilities of observed reality not being real is just personal history combined with genetics. Interestingly enough, to me it's mostly entertainment. It doesn't bother me that it could be true; it's just one more potentiality. I find it amusing.

Austin said...

TwoLives:

"Clearly, I have had doubts about how influential you see yourself to be. I am happy to be so clearly refuted, at least in writing."

Unless you subscribe to my philosophy, in which case you *should* have doubts but, at the same time, accept my statements as having a reasonable potential.

But now I'm just being pendantic :)

A Wandering Pom said...

Hi there, Austin

I know exactly what you mean about semantics and language; I was struggling for some of that last comment to find a way to express myself clearly and unambiguously. I have a feeling that I put a weight, or implication, on words like "think" and "conscious" and "aware" that you do not, and eventually they cannot bear it. (sigh) Mathematics is so much better than language, in some ways - you can actually prove things in maths, rather than just construct chains of logic that collapse when you ask too often what they mean. But even in maths the results are conditional on the axioms that you choose; and, for me, "I think" seems to be an axiom, from which "I am" follows directly, if not by any very explicable logic.

Take care

Mark

Austin said...

Mark,

We all have limits beyond which we simply accept things as "given". It simply has to do with limited resources in a (nearly) infinite universe. One "problem" I have is that my limits are (generally speaking) nowhere near "shallow" enough (as in, too deep into the task), so I spend a lot of time on things that are, functionally, irrelevant.

But I guess that's reasonable for someone in love with cybernetics and information theory.

A Wandering Pom said...

Hi there, Austin

I described "I think" as a personal axiom, but I think this was misleading, because it implies the mathematical sense of a proposition which can be accepted or rejected. Regarding myself, I cannot reject "I think", or "I am" - they are the only things I know to be true, or perhaps more accurately, they are my only beliefs. I suspect that this is closely related to the nature of consciousness, where our experiences seem to differ significantly.

I understand the situation of "deep" limits, as you put it - I suspect that I am the bane of my colleagues' lives at work, asking detailed and sometimes apparently irrelevant questions about the task in hand, in order to get enough of an understanding that I'm happy to start doing the job. And it's probably no surprise to you that I'm a computer programmer.

Take care

Mark

Austin said...

Watching true developers (as opposed to coders, who I see as different beasts entirely) at work tends to be amusing. They seem to be less willing to accept things as "givens" (initial assumed conditions granted as "input" without debate) than pretty much anyone else. Of course, I'm even more extreme about it, but having watched myself do it, I see others doing it as well.

I think it's because, in programming, there are very few givens. Obviously your chosen language and environment introduce some, but those sorts of technical restrictions are more easily accepted (often too much so) than procedural givens (which are often artifacts generated for business purposes rather than functional need).

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